Update: June 13, 2010
Since I wrote this post about two years ago, we’ve had a few changes and I wanted to make sure anyone reading this is up to speed on current information.
As of this summer (2010), we are no longer sourcing any of our Whole Foods Market 365 Everyday Value food products from China EXCEPT for frozen edamame (shelled and unshelled, organic and conventional). This means that out of more than 2,000 365 Everyday Value products right now, only ten are from China. These products include tea and frozen vegetables. We will be selling through the remaining stock of six of those over the summer, and the edamame will be the only one remaining at that time.
I want to be really clear that we didn’t stop sourcing from China because of quality or food safety concerns. As I explain in the post below, we have always had great confidence in our vendor partners in China, and we have taken great steps – including visiting farms and processing facilities ourselves, in addition to organic certification — to verify that those suppliers have the same level of integrity and commitment to quality as the rest of our partners across the world.
Our move to other sources is simply that through a routine bidding process, we found several suppliers in other countries, including the U.S., that offered the same or better quality at better prices. This was primarily a business decision – changing vendors was a good decision for our customers right now. As mentioned, we will continue to source edamame from China because we are not able to find the same high quality edamame for the same price anywhere else. (In order to provide our customers with a choice, we also stock a premium, domestic frozen edamame from Columbia River Organics, a family-owned farm in Washington State.)
While some of our customers have questioned our sourcing from China, ultimately this was a business decision based on maintaining or improving both the quality and price of our private label products. It’s possible that we will source more products from China again in the future. The bottom line is that beyond quality and price, we give our customers many choices in the products we offer and where they are sourced.
Another important clarification: it has always been our policy and practice to clearly label fresh produce with its country of origin. While we do not purchase fresh produce from China for national distribution, in some circumstances stores may bring in Chinese products such as edamame, ginger, shiitake mushroom and garlic. For example, in the Vancouver market items with origins in Asia are very common and in high demand. Product of China may be among our offerings in select markets such as Vancouver BC. Again, there is always country of origin labeling by all fresh produce.
We appreciate all of your feedback. Read on for more details.
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Original Post
I spend more than half my work time thinking about, researching and talking about organic food. As part of my job as Quality Standards and Organic Programs Coordinator, I work with our stores and suppliers to help them understand and follow the National Organic Standards, to ensure that what they’re selling as organic truly is. I also work with non-profit organizations, certifiers and others to support organic agriculture, and I carefully follow the USDA’s National Organic Program and their ongoing work on the standard. Given all my work with organics, the Whole Story Blog powers-that-be asked me to answer one of the more perplexing questions that’s been floating around lately: Can organic food from China truly be organic?
The short answer is “yes, it can,” but the long answer is far more complex and interesting. Let me take a few minutes to lay out some of the basic issues around organic agriculture in China, go over just what “organic” means in the US (or any country), talk to some leading organic experts and certifiers, and then let you decide whether organics from China are truly legit.
News stories about products from China have been largely negative over the past year: Dog food tainted with toxic melamine, fake pharmaceuticals, toys with lead paint, contaminated crops… All of these very serious safety issues have raised serious red flags about the quality of everything coming out of China. Shoppers, retailers, food makers and the media have all wondered: “If pollution is this rampant, and oversight is this lax, how can we trust anything grown or made in China?”
(Read a point by point response to a very misleading WJLA news story from May of 2008.)
With organic food, the answer is complicated, but there are number of reasons we at Whole Foods Market feel good about our organic private label products from China. You can read more about some of the specific ways we make sure our organic private label products from China meet our standards here. Read on past the fold for more information about how U.S. law applies to organics grown outside the U.S., and what some experts see as opportunities to strengthen the system.
Organic 101
Some quick background: Before 2002, there were no national organic standards. Some states had their own organic regulations, but there was no nationally accepted legal definition of the term. As the organic market grew, so did the potential for fraud and the need for consumer protection. In 1990, Congress passed the Organic Foods Production Act, which directed the USDA to create a regulation to define exactly what “organic” meant on food sold in the U.S. Thus the National Organic Standards were born.
The USDA created this standard over the next ten years or so, advised by the National Organic Standards Board, (NOSB) a multi-stakeholder group made up of growers, ranchers, environmentalists, consumer representatives, retailers, and other organic experts. Through a transparent and public process of meetings and hearings around the country, the USDA’s National Organic Program (NOP) and the NOSB developed a thorough and comprehensive standard that governs how organic food is grown, raised and processed, and how it’s certified, overseen and marketed. This standard is still managed by the NOP and advised by the NOSB, who meet about twice a year to work on the standard and receive input from the public.
Anyone who wants to sell food as organic in the U.S. must be certified by one of the USDA’s accredited third-party certifiers. These certifiers are approved and supervised through a process called accreditation, by which the NOP audits and inspects the certifiers to make sure they’re enforcing the standard appropriately.
International Organics
One popular misconception out there is that organic food grown in another country is grown according to that country’s rules (or lack of rules). That’s just not true. Anyone growing food that’s going to be sold as organic in the U.S. is required to follow the U.S. standards and be certified by a USDA accredited certifier. A number of internationally-based certifiers are accredited by the USDA, and many U.S.-based certifiers have employees on the ground in other countries.
To help understand just how certification works on the ground in China, I talked to Jeff See, Executive Director of The Organic Crop Improvement Association (OCIA), one of the major U.S. certifiers working in China. “We follow the same system anywhere in the world. There are language differences, but we use translators and native speakers.”
Given the recent attention to pollution and food safety issues in China, See says they’ve strengthened their work in China. “Since 2005 we’ve really stepped up our oversight in China. It’s misinformation that the whole country is unable to be certified because of pollution. It’s a very large country, and there are parts that are largely unpolluted.”
A few of the experts I spoke to pointed out that it’s ironic that China is now so polluted, given that China once was home to one of the oldest strongest ecological agricultural traditions in the world.
“As the Buddha said, all truth must be paradox,” says Joe Smillie, Senior Vice President at Quality Assurance International, one of the leading organic certifiers in the U.S. “I’ve always believed that China was the original homeland of organics. The Chinese peasant throughout history is one of the best organic eco farmers that the world has seen.”
That peasant ecological farming tradition was largely pushed aside as the rising population in China’s cities caused immense pressure to increase food production starting in the 1960s.
“The move to increase food production dumped a lot of urea (from nitrogen fertilizers) and other pollutants into the countryside,” notes Smillie. “Nitrogen fertilizers increase your production at great environmental cost. A lot of China has been compromised, but at the core, that peasant spirit is alive and well in some areas.”
Chuck Benbrook, Chief Scientist at The Organic Center, agrees. “I think the Chinese were growing and consuming high quality organic food several centuries before we were in the US, so I think high quality organic food can definitely be grown in China. The real concern now is widespread contamination of soil, air and water with pollutants and industrial chemicals. NOP standards provide some guidance regarding how farmers and certifiers in China are supposed to address environmental contaminants, but questions persist regarding how effectively they are doing so.”
Another concern with organic production in China is that Chinese culture just doesn’t allow for the type of transparency that business in the US has gotten used to. Benbrook says that here in the US “there is a high degree of cultural, professional, economic and corporate pressure to follow the rules. In China, many people don’t feel the same the way about government rules. It’s more accepted to tip one’s hat to the rules but do what you need to do. That’s what worries me.”
“Some of the key challenges are that the infrastructure of organic certification requires a level of transparency and both planned and unplanned spot inspections; certification also requires an interface with government and access to government data, and that’s where China becomes a difficult and challenging environment” says Bob Scowcroft, Executive Director of the Organic Farming Research Foundation. “The government doesn’t handle implied mistrust very well, and that’s one basis of organic certification. Just showing up and saying ‘Surprise! I want to see your garden’ is a difficult proposition in China, given that it’s half the world away for US-based certifiers.”
These challenges to certification in China make certification more difficult for the certifiers, and the integrity of this process depends on the integrity of USDA’s oversight of the certifiers.
USDA Accreditation
Many in the organic community feel that the USDA’s accreditation process – the process by which they oversee and review certifiers – needs to be more public and open in order to ensure that the USDA is enforcing the standard. While the certifiers I spoke to said that the accreditation process keeps them on their toes, others said that they’d feel more confident in the system if it were more transparent.
“Considering the resources our country has given them, they’re doing a good job, and I’ve seen them make us make a lot of changes since the implementation of the standard, very good changes,” says See. “They have shadowed us in China and visited several of our operations in China as part of that accreditation, and we’ve been told they will be coming back again this year. They have found some points that we have to improve in China, and we are.”
“They come to our offices and can go through any file they want, a long list of things they have to do, based on ISO 61 guidelines, which are strict international guidelines that tell them how to accredit,” says Smillie. “They have to check us out and make sure we’re doing the right thing, and you have to show improvement. You have to really dance quick or you’re gone.” Smillie noted that USDA accreditation officials had also shadowed QAI’s inspectors on international audits.
Scowcroft believes that the USDA could do more to be transparent and open the accreditation process to the public: “This was never intended to be a black hole, it’s a public private partnership, and the USDA has done little to explain how they spot check certifiers and to what extent they enforce any infractions they do discover.”
“I haven’t seen the NOP invest time and political capital needed to enhance the accreditation process in the ways that are going to be necessary to bring the process in a country like China or India up to US standards,” said Benbrook.
The recently passed Farm Bill urged appropriators in Congress to allocate nearly $2 million a year in additional funding for the National Organic Program, and I hope that this chunk of this funding will go towards stronger, better and more public accreditation work at NOP. More resources and funding can only help the program, which struggles to oversee organic agriculture in the US on a limited budget.
Within the verification community, everyone’s trying to do their best with the resources they have” notes Scowcroft. “But there’s a question as to whether the resources they have match the incredible magnitude of the growing organic market.”
The NOP also just launched a new online reading room where they are posting documents related to certification and accreditation work. This site will help the organic community keep a close eye on the USDA’s work and directly review NOP accreditation documents. Any member of the public can now review NOP’s accreditation reports for any certifier online.
Scrutiny is a good thing.
Organic certification in China obviously raises some serious questions. While there’s definitely a system of oversight in place, pollution and lack of transparency in China is just cause to look very closely at all food from China, organic or otherwise. As I mentioned, we’ve gone to great lengths to make sure the organic private label products we import from China meet our own standards and the National Organic Standards. Our buyers and auditors visit the farms and facilities we buy from, and we have created testing protocols that test for pesticide and heavy metal residues. Our quality systems and test results suggest that the organic certification process is working well for these products.
So, to (longwindedly) answer the question, “Can organic products from China truly be organic?” We’ve found that they can, but we’ve also found that the question requires and deserves lots of scrutiny. I expect that this same question will be receiving a lot of attention in the coming months from organic shoppers, the media, non-profit groups and the USDA, and this increased scrutiny and accountability will hopefully lead to improved trust in organic products from the U.S. and around the globe.
But, in the meantime, we at Whole Foods Market aren’t waiting. We’ve been taking extra steps to make sure our organic products from all over the world are organic, and now we’re launching a new level of transparency about our products, where we get them, and how evaluate them. We’ll be updating our website with more info about in the coming weeks, and keeping you updated via this blog.

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I love whole foods, and I know many of my colleagues LOVE the market as well. WE would LOVE to see a Whole foods open up somewhere in northern/western Morris county, NJ, such as Denville or Randolph area.
thanks much,
Paula
June 6th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
There is ZERO chance I will buy Chinese food products, whether or not they are organic.
They have had thousands ill from human waste in food, pet food poisoning, and other pitiful violations of healthy food practices.
It is NOT worth the systemic risk that China poses.
June 6th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
At this pivotal point in our country’s economy, why is one of the most ethical businesses in America even asking this question. Oh, yeah, the stock holders. This is an obvious example of how even companies like Whole Foods are dedicating their efforts to the profitability of their company and the returns of it’s stock holders, instead of minding the health and well being of it’s customers.
Food from China is cheaper for many reasons. One of which is a trade deficit that that makes American labor less valuable.
There is ZERO chance I will buy Chinese food products, whether or not they are organic.
They have had thousands ill from human waste in food, pet food poisoning, and other pitiful violations of healthy food practices.
It is NOT worth the systemic risk that China poses.
June 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
The most ironic part of all of this is that the Chinese government has been known to block food from the United States, because it doesn’t meet their standards.
Our homes are filled with products and food from China. There’s a good chance that the sheets you slept in last night and the towels you dried off with this morning were made in China along with the juice your had for breakfast. The restaurants where we eat very often get their food (indirectly) from China. You probably never thought to ask, “Where is that catfish farm?” In fact, last year we imported about $320 billion worth of food (lots of fish) and stuff from China. Yes, some of it was toxic, but so were a lot of our domestic products and foods. Remember the school beef recalls?
I buy food that is “Certified Organic” because I know that it’s scutinized to the best possible standards, regardless of where it’s from. I think the xenophobic attitude people have towards the Chinese and their products is the result of irational fear and racism egged on by the media. Like everyting else in the news, “dangerous things from China” have been over-sensationalized just to get our attention. As far as I’m concerned, “Certified Organic” from China is just as safe as food from Idaho, Brazil, California, Timbuktu or any other place. I trust Whole Foods to provide the best organic and natural products for the best prices wherever in the world they get them.
June 6th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Yes, China “organics” needs to be explained. As does Whole Foods’s relationship with the notorious green-washing corporation Kimberly Clark, who has time and time again been associated with, not only Whole Foods, but devastating our planet by sourcing virgin fiber from North Americas Boreal Forest. While there is nothing on their shelves from Kimberly Clark, (Kleenex Tissue’s parent company), they continue to use them in their corporate offices. The term “greenwasher” should become synonymous with Whole Foods. I pledge NO alliance with this fortune 500 corporation until they stop this greenwashing and become true stewards of our planet, not only on the shelves, but in their every day way of life.
June 7th, 2008 at 12:56 am
customer service is the best. better then ralphs market.
June 7th, 2008 at 1:57 am
Whole Foods came out with their premium body care line seal, perhaps a similar seal should be applied to food to distinguish between an ecofake and a REAL organic product.
Vertical agriculture is addressing this. Crops are being grown vertically inside high rise office buildings. The idea is that food is not truly organic if there are contaminents in the air and water, unless grown indoors. Perhaps India and China could try verticial agriculture and have their products certified.
http://www.verticalfarm.com/
As a consumer, I want to see pictures of the farms growing my organic food and the overarching location. Is the farm using the same river a factory is dumping their pollution in? It would help to have a team of investigators go to these farms, check out the local scene and put a stamp on their product indictating approval of the local environment the food is being grown in. If customers a buying products with such a seal, I hope we can improve the quality of the environment in India and China. For example, Vandana Shiva seems to be doing authenic organic farm work in India. I would feel more inclined to buy her organic products. http://www.navdanya.org/organic/production.htm
June 7th, 2008 at 8:42 am
How far down does Whole Foods plan to go? I used to shop there ALL the time – and we spend a couple thousand dollars a month on groceries. I rarely go anymore, shopping at farmers’ markets, health food stores, and the organic sections of smaller grocery stores. Whole Foods is squeezing everyone else out, including meat workers.
Produce from China? Are you freaking kidding me?
June 7th, 2008 at 8:49 am
i highly doubt that ther will ever be such a thing as organic food from china that is ACTUALLY organinc! if there ever is such a discovery then i think that my family and i wil be very happy!
June 7th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
THanks for clarifying the 365 brand. There were many questions in my mind because the standards for Organic have changed in depth and breadth over many years. SPecific to China, I do not purchase products made in China … from WalMart Nor Whole Foods. I would prefer to support products and food produced in the USA.
Can someone explain organically grown in Chile? I believe it is one of the few countries that continues the use of DDT on crops.
June 8th, 2008 at 12:02 am
I can certainly see where people’s frustration with both Whole Foods as well as with China comes from. Yes, Whole Foods is a corporation and much of what they do could fall under the typical corporate “evils” that we tend to think of. But they also do a lot for both the Americans that work in their stores as well as the world. Their Whole Foods Foundation is a great example of that, and really educated me about microloans and my ability to contribute to small families.
Back to the point at hand. I think it is really brave of Whole Foods to embrace Chinese goods while everyone else is running away. I imagine there are several steps of quality assurance to ensure that the produce and products we import from China meet the US Consumer’s demands. Not only does help to encourage a change in Chinese practices for their exports, but it also benefits us in receiving prodects of high quality for a cheaper price. Further, the demand for high quality organic produce far exceeds the US, Canada and South America’s ability to produce. Where exactly then do all of these “I will never buy from China” people plan on getting their own goods?
I think that the fact is, as of now we simply cannot have everything that we want. Inexpensive, locally-grown, organic, year-round, etc…there is nothing that is going to fit each of our demands as a consumer. The way I see it, we can do the research (and that involves more than relying on American Media, not exactly known for its unbiased approach) and enlighten ourselves in an attempt to make the best decisions possible. For me, that includes buying select products from China and doing something that no longer seems to come easy to Americans, but putting trust in another race and culture. If the same does not apply to you, so be it, but at least try to do a little more research instead of falling prey to fear-based xenophobia.
June 8th, 2008 at 7:00 am
I found this blog topic to be really disturbing. I can’t believe Whole Foods would even consider purchasing ANYTHING from China, let alone food products. I have been very distraught lately to discover so many of your products are made or grown in China (food, kitchen accessories, clothing, etc.) I really hope you reconsider purchasing any more foods from China.
June 8th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
There are a billion people in China. Out of the billion people there are some that have bad food practices. I have faith in whole foods that out of those billion people in china they will find the highest quality organic foods. Its a little bit prejudice to say out of those 1 billion people none of them can produce high quailty food. Also at whole foods you do have choice.
June 9th, 2008 at 10:03 am
I’m wary of “organic” foods from China. After all the pet food,toy,etc,recalls–I don’t see China as having a “good neighbor” policy towards us/US. There’s also the human rights record and the Tibet issue. So I’m boycotting China as much as I can.
Besides,I think the Columbia River Organics are great!
June 9th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I will never buy food from China, I am angry about the whole Nafta thing,our officials tell “us” we need to cut back on fuel and then they have food shipped thousands of miles and thousands of gallons of fuel. Something stinks here.I truly believe if we all ate only local foods or grown in the United States we would not be seeing all these salmonella outbreaks in melons and tomatoes,the foreign countries do not have the facilities to have a clean product.I am truly angry about the whole thing and refuse to buy foreign foods.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Not only does China make it difficult to verify the safety of organic food grown there, but anything made there that comes to the USA is questionable. Politically and socially, China does not hold the same values as the West. Engaging China economically will not change the oppressive stranglehold on the population there. Does WFM feel good about selling products made in China? I guess if making a profit is the most important thing in WFM’s current thinking, then selling products from China must feel great. WFM needs to really think about this one and decide what is most important. Profit, or safety to the consumer?
June 11th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
I’ll say it here too. Get one of the $10million loans that WF is offering and start growing food here in the U.S.A. Better still use the money you spend at WF to plant a garden at you house and don’t spend money at any market. This is how to get any company to do better, don’t spend your money there. As far as China goes around 70% of all things sold in stores come from a country other than the U.S.A. a large portion of that percentage is China. Why? Higher profit margin!!!!! Just try to open a store that sells only made in the U.S.A products, you might not have a big selection of products but I bet you would make money. Plenty of people are sick of not enough made in the U.S.A. products, food or otherwise, so stop talking about it and do something. Pier on Imports they are a large, sucessfull company and they prodly adveritse that they sell imports. Why? Because the American consumer is brainwashed into thinking that Made in the U.S.A. somehow equales lesser quality, or whatever trinket they desire is not made in the U.S.A. This is called the trade deficit, that word (deficit) seems to be the new stardard for America how far in debt can we go?
June 12th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
A few points:
1) If I wanted to buy organic goods from China, I could go to Walmart and do so. Why would I pay Whole Foods prices for it?
2) I am not xenophobic. However, I do not like to buy from China and avoid it as much as I practically can. I do not like the trade deficit. I do not like giving more power to a country that holds so much of our national debt. And I have serious doubts about why their stuff is cheaper. It’s not magic – there is a price. Just not one that we’re currently paying. (Unless you count US farmers as “we”, of course…)
3) As a typical Whole Foods customer, I’m not only white, female, in my 40’s, and upper middle class – but I also listen to lots of NPR. There was a show recently on Chinese factories and how they fool the foreign inspectors with things like shadow factories. It sounds like the aftermarket testing that WF does can likely weed out non-organic products, but it still does not verify fair-trade practices, or even basic human decency.
4) FYI – I read or heard somewhere that the carbon footprint of food is not so simple as “buy locally”. Apparently, apples grown in New Zealand can have a smaller carbon footprint than local produce, due to higher efficiency in agriculture, or something like that.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:11 am
When organic produce is available in the US, it is an insult to have to read labels to make sure the product is not from China. Many of us are willing to pay more for US organics. If WF is buying Chinese produce because it is a cost factor, then I question the original founding WF philosophy, integrity and authenticy of its standards.
June 15th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
What WF is losing site of is that their customers are going to be most upset for being deceived. Regardless of your stand on products from China, marking a product with a US stamp of approval (USDA Organic) leads the consumer to believe that the product is in fact from the US. If WF had taken out large POP (Point of Purchase) displays showcasing that the “organic” food was from China then they would not have this backlash. Of course they also would not have had as many sales. So the motivation for deception calls into question WF’s integrity. Yes, they are a corporation with shareholders. And yes, they do have a lot of good programs for the benefit of all. But it is a classic error or a corporation to forget why they have enough success to have shareholders and great worldly programs. Without the customer, you are nothing. Deceive the customer and watch your precious stock do a serious dive. In these current economic times, the extra money spent for something like a supposedly organic product really matters. This is the worst time for WF to have made this error.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Hi, DeceptiveWF! Thanks for your concern. I disagree that the USDA seal implies that the product was grown in the US; the USDA seal means that the product meets the USDA’s organic standards, no matter where in the world it was grown. If this weren’t the case, then only products grown in the US could be called “organic,” and all of the great growers of organic products in countries other than the US would lose their ability to sell their products as “organic” here. We’ve clearly labeled our products from China (and other countries), and have now become more transparent than ever in letting our customers know where our products are from, and why. Here’s lots more information we put together: http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/issues/organic/globalorganics.html
June 26th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
The two main statements that concern me, a conscious consumer, are below:
1. “I work with our stores and suppliers to help them understand and follow the National Organic Standards…”
Who cares about how you evangelize to the stores. That is spreading propaganda about the falsely advertised organic brand.
2. “With organic food, the answer is complicated, but there are number of reasons we at Whole Foods Market feel good about our organic private label products from China. You can read more about some of the specific ways we make sure our organic private label products from China meet our standards here.”
How can you “FEEL GOOD” about this? This gives me no confidence that the standards you link to are actually being audited if it’s just a ‘feeling.” Plus that document is a bunch of words without any rigorous audit practice that has accountability.
As American consumers we have to stop being ambivalent to corporations who abuse the trust we have in them. I trust Whole Foods to provide good food and not pull scams like California Blend veggies that are made in China. This is not an error by the graphic design department people.
I feel like Fast Food Nation for organic products. Who can go to China and find out for sure and bring back some hardcore data? Does that matter, it’s from China. I agree with the other conscious consumers, we do not want products from China or other countries where cheap labor trumps expensive shipping costs to get a broccoli to the table.
Step up and use the passionate farmers here in the U.S.
Whole Foods – A Subsidiary of China.
JT
June 29th, 2008 at 12:35 am
JT – Thanks for your comment. I appreciate and share your concerns about organic products. Let me take few minutes to talk about some of the issues you raised. First off, I care very deeply about how I “evangelize” to the stores. The USDA organic standard is a very strict, comprehensive and detailed regulation, and helping our team members and suppliers understand its requirements is very important to me and the company. I’m not “spreading propaganda;” I’m actually giving people the tools they need to make sure that what we’re selling as organic is truly organic under the USDA standard.
As far as “feeling good” about organics from China, I don’t consider “feeling good” to be a substitute for stringent audits conducted by very serious inspectors. I “feel good” about these products because the audits have gone well, and we’re supporting some of the few farmers in China who are keeping that country’s ecological farming traditions alive. As I said above and in the pages linked above, the products we’re importing from China truly are organic; the document describes our rigorous audit system in great detail.
And as for “California Blend,” this is a long standing culinary term that describes a mix of carrots, broccoli and cauliflower. A quick scan of any online grocery website will show that there are many brands, organic and non-organic, who offer this same mix.
I don’t expect that all of our shoppers will be comfortable with products from China or other countries, for whatever personal reasons may motivate them. There are plenty of fresh and frozen products in our stores from the US and all over the world; please feel free to choose whatever suits you.
June 30th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Joe Dickson, I don’t see how you can claim that “We’ve clearly labeled our products from China (and other countries).” I’m looking at a package of 365 brand frozen Broccoli Florets and can’t find any mention on the label that they are from China. The only information I see is “Distributed by: Whole Foods Market Austin, Texas.” The bar code matches the item listed at http://www.acc-tv.com/images/wjla/news/iteamwholefoodslist052108.pdf that says it comes from China.
After the massive pet food recalls last year that killed thousands of pets and sickened tens of thousands, I am horrified to learn that I’ve been feeding these to my dog (who gets a homemade diet). None of the standard testing would have found the ingredients that were finally identified as causing these deaths (melamine and cyanuric acid, which were deliberately added to increase the supposed protein content and thus the value), so your testing doesn’t impress me.
I would never knowingly buy food from China for myself or for my dog after that, and I feel betrayed that I was tricked into doing so by Whole Foods, whom I used to trust, but never will again — especially since you’re still not telling the truth! I thought I was safe not having to read labels when I shopped at WF; now I feel naive. If I have to read the labels anyway, I might as well shop elsewhere, where it’s cheaper.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Whole Foods just lost my business. Period.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:42 pm
It’s incredibly naive to say that you wont shop somewhere, because they sell food from China. You wont be able to buy food anywhere. Quaker Oats, Mars, Hormel, Del Monte, Pillsbury, Kellogg, Nabisco, Trader Joes, Tyson, Sun Maid, Post, Sunkist, and many more get food from China. Most have plants and factories there. If you’re going to boycott China you’re going to be hungry.
Why is everyone so worried about China anyway? Where do we draw this line and how do we choose what countries are NOT OKAY? I can think of worse places than China to get food…
I don’t have any frozen broccoli, but my 365 Brand Organic Berry Blend clearly says MADE IN CHINA.
July 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Hi, Joe, thanks for this informative post. I have two additional questions:
1) Given the latest melamine controversy in China (e.g. ,http://www.who.int/csr/don/2008_09_19/en/index.html) I was wondering if you could expand a little on the contaminant testing WF performs on its imported organic products. You mention testing for pesticides and heavy metals, but has WF considered testing for microbiological contamination, for instance, or melamine?
2) Whole Foods is recognized as *the* place to shop for those who consider themselves eco-conscious. Importing product from China, especially produce, doesn’t seem appropriate for buyers wishing to shrink the size of their carbon footprint. What initiatives has WF pushed stateside, beyond the Go Local campaign, to help buyers support domestic organic producers?
September 28th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Just to let you know, I will not buy any products from China, organic or not. I would prefer to pay more and be sure of the quality. I just don’t believe that you are truly able to monitor growers in China and I don’t believe that enough testing is being done of the product to determine if it is OK or not. Your explanation was not reassuring.
September 30th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Not only is buying products from China (most particularly food) undertaking a huge risk that I will NOT take with my health or that of my family, but “organic from China” is an oxymoron. Organic farming is a whole philosophy about sustainability, locally grown foods, and minimizing the impact on the environment. It is not simply growing foods without pesticides or herbicides. As a result, Whole Foods’ practice of importing food from halfway across the world, “organic” or not, is antithetical to their professed mission and undermines their credibility.
October 3rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I agree with Madonna.
I will not buy any foods produced in China – or elsewhere, for that
matter, except for the US. I have not confidence that these foods are truly grown under American standards (which themselves have become overly lax).
It makes food shopping more difficult, but I am adamant that my foods are grown in the US or Canada.
Besides quality control concerns, I see no reason to spend all the fuel bringing my food from around the world.
October 5th, 2008 at 12:16 am
@Joyce, to address the second part of your question, we do offer support to our domestic producers through the Local Producer Loan Program. More details here: http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/values/local-producer-loan-program.php
October 7th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
You might promise the following:
“Cattle/Buffalo
No antibiotics — ever
No supplemental growth hormones
No animal byproducts in feed
Range raised for at least 2/3 of the animal’s life”
but I don’t see melamine and other dangerous ingredients listed there. I don’t see that Whole Foods requires an animal raised in China to have access to clean drinking water (water that would be fit for human consumption)-and why shouldn’t U.S. consumers expect to have complete information about their food’s growing/living conditions when “The Chinese government has declared more than half of the rivers in the country too polluted to drink from”?(source: http://www.naturalnews.com/023593.html) and we’ve had contaminated toothpaste, animal food, etc. from them?
There might be a time for Whole Foods to buy from China but now is not that time. I’m deeply saddened that I can no longer support Whole Foods.
November 5th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
BUNK. If it took 3 to 4 pages to explain WholeFood’s position on China foodstuff, you haven’t convinced me yet! I suggest you make a statement to the food industry and ban foodstuff from China.
November 8th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I’m done shopping at Whole Foods until it clearly labels country of origin on all its products.
Joe Dickson, where does the 365 Fish Oil come from? The label says nothing. WF, we are putting this stuff in our bodies. We deserve to know where it comes from.
November 11th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
@Chris The 365 Everyday Value Fish Oil is sourced from fish harvested from the deep cold waters off of the Pacific coast of South America.
November 12th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Back in the eighties and nineties, the organic industry warned this would happen. The USDA would get involved with organics and basically, screw it up. Whole Foods Market appears to be making the problem worse. USDA rules and inept oversight have allowed thousands of food products from anywhere in the world to flood into the US organic market place, regardless of their true organic status or more importantly, their safety. Aligned with corporate profits, Whole Foods has taken advantage of this opportunity to tap into cheap products and cheap labor (which will ultimately equal inferior products) from third world countries. As a result, we don’t know how natural, chemical-free or safe these products are. For example, many thirld world countries still use harmful chemicals like DDT. WF and the USDA can claim all they want that the sources are certified, but in light of the Chinese melamine problems lately, it just goes to show that the further the “arm” of regulation, the less control is obtained. Are you guys naive enough to believe that some poor farmer in a third world country is going to care about sustainable farming practices, pollution, chemicals, contamination, safety, etc.? They are just as happy to take your money and give you whatever product they can produce, good or bad. So, there you have it. We’ve taken a beautiful idea like organic foods and corrupted it. Unless WF and other large vendors take necessary steps to enforce oversight, the problem will become worse. I highly recommend that the first step you take is to REQUIRE every product give a full list of countries from which EACH ingredient is originated. You don’t currently do that for every product. If you are going to “cheap out” on your products, at least let us know which ones you are going to “cheap out” on. Until that happens, I (and others) will start to move away from WF and either back to US conventionally-grown products or locally-grown products. At least, we would have some idea of the truth behind their origins and safety (for better or worse). You guys, on the other hand, have been misleading us into thinking that ANYTHING from WF must be good. This is simply not true. It might even come down to each of us having to grow our own food, like our great-great grandparents did before us. It is a shame how far we’ve come and yet, how much we’ve lost. So much for the idea of you get what you pay for…congratulations, I think your company has manage to break the golden rule and get premium prices for inferior products.
November 27th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Are any of you at Whole Foods honestly reading the hogwash that has become the standard Whole Foods Market propaganda? I used to go to the first Whole Foods store in Austin when it was a little store selling organic food, safe from all the things wrong with traditional food. Now when I visit a Whole Foods Market in Houston, I see as much, if not more, “traditional” produce from all over the world, including Mexico. Those of us who grew up in Texas and visited Mexico on family trips learned that, to prevent a nasty stomach bug, we should not eat the produce. Now I can pay an insanely hiked up amount for Mexican non-organic produce because it is sold at Whole Foods. And all of those banners that say “buy local???” Who are you kidding? I challenge you to stroll the produce aisles and find any local produce. Oh, you do sell some honey and a salsa or two that are local, but so does every other grocery store in town. Have you thought about buying from any of the local farmers? Did you ever plan to buy land and create your own organic farms that were, maybe, I don’t know, LOCAL? And now, you’re trying to convince us that you’re growing organic foods in China that we should actually pay Whole Foods prices for and take your word for it that they are safe? Right after you swore never to sell anything with hydrogenated fats, although you will sell high-fructose corn syrup, because it’s “natural.” Remember when you were the store selling good, local, safe, high-quality food?
Surely, Whole Foods Markets is aware that, to your shoppers, organic means much more than just all-natural gardening. When the water is contaminated, the air is filthy and unsafe, the dirt in the ground is not so safe either. How can you believe that you can plop some “organically grown” items down in the middle of a place where everything surrounding your little garden is contaminated? What makes your organic produce different from the organic produce at Wal-Mart now? I think the big joke is that the only difference is that you charge much more for the same stuff that is at Wal-Mart. Do you not realize that much of the value that Whole Foods carries is in goodwill? People trust — or used to trust — Whole Foods to make the right decisions for its customers and all of its stakeholders as well as the planet. Now, you are simply another store making a buck — lots of bucks in your case. I became disillusioned with your stores a long time ago and now do as much of my produce buying as possible at farmers’ markets. Even though I found the produce section a joke, I had continued to buy packaged organic items. I’m now returning all of the peanut butter in my pantry and in my refrigerator (already opened) that I now know is from China. Yes, it was there on the label all along. But, guess what? I bought it from Whole Foods, a store I used to trust, so I never thought I had to read the label. Any other store, I would have read the label, but I thought since it was the 365 brand from Whole Foods, that I could buy it without worries. What else are you doing that we will find when we read your labels more carefully? Getting the milk from cows in Russia?
You’ve lost the only thing you really had over all the other stores that now sell organic foods — my trust.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Will China be the leader in organic food and ingredients?
China is already the third largest producer of organic produce in terms of hectares and the domestic consumption of organic foods is also increasing in the urban regions. Would China have the potential of becoming number one? After some initial research, I have started a campaign in this market. It would be interesting to obtain some feedback on my thoughts. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3902797/Chinese-Organic-Food-Market-Study
An interesting discussion on my proposal has been initiated on Linked in: http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&gid=36656&discussionID=1259419&goback=.anh_36656
January 30th, 2009 at 3:53 am
The fact that Whole Foods is defending the Chinese market is extremely disappointing. Local sources of organic, sustainable, year-round food products are relatively limited, unless you happen to live in certain regions of California, and so I find myself sometimes at the mercy of what Whole Foods has to offer. There is NO WAY, however, that I am going to willingly, consciously consume any food products produced, harvested or in any way sourced from China. The Chinese government, markets and businesses have repeatedly revealed their abuses in various industries, food just being one of them, but quite frankly, the most important of them. I refuse to risk poisoning myself or my family for the sake of saving a pretty penny, supporting and proliferating the growth of a Chinese Organic Market, supposedly suitable for the U.S. Maybe my standards are just set too high, but Whole Foods is increasingly revealing itself to be “big industry”, with profit being its ever most important priority.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Can’t we all just admit that Whole Foods is doing this entirely for economic reasons? There is no reason with the wealth of U.S. organic resources to bother with “Chinese organics.” Just like every other American business that’s utilizing (exploiting) terribly low-paid workers in China, India, etc. We must take care of U.S. workers first. And the idea that WF can get reasonable, verifiable transparency from Chinese “organic” companies sounds quite far-fetched. It’s all about the bottom line here, folks, and it would better if WF could just come out and say so.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:38 am
WHole foods unfortunatelly became a profit-oriented institution folowing Wall-Mart’s strategies for stocks since it decreased it’s growing. Too bad that money-making goals overpassed the company’s primary goals. Food from China????Knowing of all scandals agains regulations, killing from pets to babies? No thanks, Whole Foods, I’ll stick with more serious groceries stores.
This kind of profit strategy just make you loose your most loyal costumers.
June 17th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
I would rather consume conventional produce from a local grocery store than organic Chinese produce from WF. This is a flipping outrage as far as I am concerned. Part of the reason people shop at WF is so that they don’t have to be worried or concerned about poor quality.
To the point, I recently cooked (but did not consume) some frozen spinach, there was something in the spinach that looked like “green beans”. Yeah, maybe it’s just me but upon noticing that the spinach was a “product of China” I threw it out along with the other stuff in my refrigerator that were “product(s) of China”.
This erodes trust and credibility but when WF starts to procure meats from China please clearly display this in a proud fashion so that I can avoid those too.
Thank you
June 30th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
This is a crock! I will never intentionally buy food from China for my family.
July 9th, 2009 at 7:50 am
I’m really surprised at the number of comments that seem to suggest that Whole Foods shouldn’t operate with a profit. Whole Foods is not a non-profit organization and yes, they do have a responsibility to their shareholders. These are the people that own the company. Hello?
That said, I do have a concern with food from China. I’ve had five bacterial infections from various trips to Asian countries with better standards than China. All I ask for is choice though. If there are people that want a low-cost Chinese product, they should carry it. I just want a comparable selection of Columbia River Organics Products.
I shopped a local Whole Foods after having picked Columbia River Organics Garden Harvest Stir Fry while recently traveling and really enjoying it (many trips back to that Whole Foods over the two week trip.) There were only a few products available and I picked up the closest thing, 365 Thai Vegetable Stir-Fry. I didn’t see the China label until I went to cook them.
WF – Give your customers a choice. I’d rather pay the same for a 10 oz bag of WSDA Certified Organic vegetables than a 16 oz bag of vegetables from China. This would only increase sales (and therefore profits) as you obviously have a lot of customers that are uncomfortable with the idea of eating produce from China.
I’m not sure if the characters after Seeking will come out in the post or not. This is the simplified Chinese characters for “organic.”
Seeking 有机
September 16th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
A friend of mine works for the EPA in the legal department.
I asked about Organics in China. She said not to trust it.
I found a news report on this subject and the following statement was said.
QAI can not inspect chinese farm, they rely on a goverment agent to inspect…
google qai inspecting chinas farms.
October 12th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Whether or not China actually produces organic is not the issue for me. SHIPPING anything that far is bad environmental policy. Yes, it is less expensive for Whole Foods to buy from industrial organic farms in China, but in terms of mass amounts petrochemical product used simply to MOVE that product across the globe is inexcusable. “Industrial Organic” is a compromise at best when feeding thousands of people. We want healthy food for individuals and earth friendly practices. We must look at not only *how* the food is grown, but *how* it comes to our tables, as well. Whole Foods needs to wake up and realize that this group of consumers are a little more savvy than some others. Continuing to pull this kind of BS will lose your company many trusting, loyal clients…myself included.
October 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
There are so many reasons why this is a bad idea, and most of them have been covered: the main thing for me is the hypocrisy of “go local-support local” on all the grocery bags-this is a complete farce!! The produce dept is full of oranges from new zealand and australia-tomatoes-cukes-peppers-avocados from Chile and Mexico. What about seasonal organic items that are local-or at least domestic?? And now I look on my bag of frozen broccoli and find that it’s “produced in china”. The carbon footprint alone is just not lining up for me with Whole Foods philosophy. After reading this on the bag (and after eating lots of it) I am left feeling deceived. Yes I should have looked on the bag-but 365 organic implied to me local or at least domestic organic. Not made in china. ugh! It’s so upsetting-my consumer trust has been utterly violated. I do read labels-for ingredients-not where my grocery items, that I am paying premium prices for, are manufactured. I expect to do that in Target for non-food items-but Whole Foods?? I will make every effort to not give another red cent to this company by supporting local stores, farmer’s markets and smaller chains. I am so outraged over this Whole Foods!! I find it disgusting that you have lowered yourself to these practices and write on blogs trying to justify it. It in no way is justifiable to those of us who supported this company believing that they are in sync with our beliefs-it simply is not the case.
November 17th, 2009 at 12:26 am
I find the comments below troubling…angry customers that have not stopped shopping at Whole Foods, therefore, making it obvious your not that angry over organics from China.
I shop at Whole Foods but mainly for cleaning products that I can’t find elsewhere but shy away from the foods.
November 17th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
I will not eat any products from china whether you say they are organic or not. I ate pine nuts from china sold at whole foods and now everything I eat tastes like bitter metal for days. I was very dismayed to discover that whole foods was aware of this problem with chinese pine nuts but continues to sell them. You cannot trust whole foods. They will sell products fully aware of harm that may come to customers from eating them.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Personally, I still do not feel secure with any products from China (or other countries) let alone food. I have read about the “audits” that are done. For example, a manufacturer can purchase a $1000. audit or an $8000. audit and still pass but the more expensive audit will be more comprehensive.
There is documentation from cases that after passing numerous audits there was tainted food that had to be recalled from those manufacturers.
At least in the USA (although there have been cases of tainted food), you know that regulations are stricter than overseas. What chemicals are allowed and handling standards are watched more closely here.
Speaking of organics, another problem is that since the “organic movement” is becoming more acceptable and more people are buying into the fact that organics are better for you, many more companies are jumping onto the bandwagon to make money in this area and are lowering the organic standards.
One example of this is Horizon. I have red that they are using cows that were not raised organically and using them in their milk production. There are some companies out there that are strictly sticking to the “organic principals” and I will continue to buy their products.
I spend hundreds of dollars a month at Whole Foods to buy food for my family that is nutritious and safe. I read the labels carefully and keep up to date on the ingredients terminology as the term for msg and other additives have changed to try to hide them in foods. I also read the frozen packages as I have seen frozen vegetables from China in your stores (although I was told they are about 1% of your inventory).
The most disturbing thing for me is when I think I am buying a product from USA and I find out that yes, it was manufactured in the USA but with ingredients from China or other countries.
For example, Solgar Vitamins makes vitamins in the USA but with most of the ingredients from China and other countries. I called them and asked where they get their ingredients and they said “China and other countries”. There is an 800 number right on the bottle. They are one of the most recommended vitamin companies. Now, I won’t buy them but I appreciate their honesty.
When this is the case, then it should be labeled manufactured in the USA with outsourced ingredients because technically, these products are not manufactured in the USA just assembled here if the ingredients are foreign.
So, with all of this you really can’t trust any of it. If it is labeled USA it can be full of ingredients from China. How can we know? There needs to be stricter labeling policies which the food manufacturers are fighting and lobbying in Washington to stop.
The more informed consumers are will allow them to choose what they want to consume and not think they are getting one thing when they are really eating something else.
Then, when Americans stop buying this foregin food and it starts rotting on the shelves, maybe then manufacturers and stores with stop stocking it.
Until then, those who are uninformed and just buy for the pretty packaging, because they liked the commercial or because they don’t know where the food is really from, will just have to cross their fingers and hope that their next meal won’t be tainted with chemicals, filth or any other foregin object.
December 19th, 2009 at 7:39 am
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December 19th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Chinese food is great, as long as it is made in America. I am not even interested in purchasing “made in China” food products. This pitch is reminiscent of the great wal of china mart.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:33 am
News of dangerous products from China is one of the reasons I became a regular Whole Foods customer. So, I was furious (and sickened!) to discover that the frozen broccoli florets and asparagus I had been feeding my infant daughter were grown in the same country that has produced melamine-laced milk/baby formula, toothpaste with formaldehyde, and lead-coated toys!! While it is a challenge to avoid everything made in China, I refuse to knowingly ingest or feed my family anything grown and/or produced there. I hope you will reconsider your position on “organic” products from China. Your customers DO NOT and WILL NOT believe that this food is safe no matter how many pages of explanation you write.
February 7th, 2010 at 2:02 am
I have been a WF customer for many years, and have never had a complaint. But I stopped buying frozen spinach at WF as soon as I realized it is from China. PLEASE bring back frozen leaf spinach from the US. I will start reading labels at WF much more closely, and stop buying any foods from China.
February 7th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Please identify the country of origin in a large, easy to find label. While you make great points about China, the Chinese government has proven to be an unreliable regulator. We plan to go through all our food and return anything from from China. I just won’t take chances with my 1 yr old, given the unacceptable track record of the Chinese government on food regulations.
In addition, please consider the environmental impact of shipping food from overseas. I try to buy food from north america whenever possible. Not only is it fresher, but it contributes less to global warming and oceanic pollution.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
[...] 365 brand—even an assortment called the California Medley—come from China? (Here’s a Whole Foods’ blogpost about “Chinese organics,” followed by skeptical [...]
February 11th, 2010 at 8:12 am
[...] 365 brand—even an assortment called the California Medley—come from China? (Here’s a Whole Foods’ blogpost about “Chinese organics,” followed by skeptical [...]
February 12th, 2010 at 8:16 am
I have spent several hours researching the topic of organic food from China and it’s connection to Whole Foods. I have also discovered, much to my surprise, that the Sugar Snap Peas I purchased recently from Whole Foods indeed came from China.
On the matter of transparency: If Whole Foods was operating from a standpoint of genuine transparency, they would have broken the story about China organics themselves. The fact that the product’s origin is placed on the back of the product in very small print might legally pass as transparency, but hardly counts as such in the real world of the frequent Whole Foods customer, at least, this previously frequent Whole foods customer. The question for me is if transparency is a company tenet, why did Whole Foods not come out first with this story? The answer seems clear. The China of today and organic farming seem almost antithetical. China’s record of product safety, environmental standards, worker safety, worker’s rights, the list goes on, is dismal. Stating loudly and clearly that 365 California Blend is grown in China was not likely to make a splash with the American consumer, especially the ones who want to purchase organic food. I do not doubt for a minute that there are indeed organic farmers in China and know that their cultural history is a rich one for this practice. This does not mitigate, but only highlights how far China has come, sadly, from those ancient practices. Then there is the additional matter of the distance these products must travel to Whole Foods store shelves in the U.S. and all of the issues that presents nutritionally, environmentally, politically. Before you know it, those snap peas don’t seem nearly as appetizing as they did before.
It remains a dubious proposition at best to make claims that the USDA and Quality Assurance International place the consumer ahead of the food industry as a whole, including the organic food industry. For instance, the language of the USDA’s mandate was only recently changed from “promote the food industry” to “encourage the food industry.” A desire to protect and promote industry interests runs through all government organizations, including the USDA.
It is naive of consumers to expect large companies and government protection agencies to place the consumer before their own profit interests when the rubber meets the road. This must include even the seemingly “good guys”, like Whole Foods. This recent discovery for me about outsourced farming to China, a story that is almost a year old now for many, only highlights the dilemma and responsibility consumers face. The choice between convenience and economical shopping is pitted against the desire to eat food that is of genuine high quality, that is truly what it says it is without any spin or theatrics about the country of origin. It is clear that buying locally, CSA’s or growing your own food likely offers the best chance to exercise some stewardship over food purchases/consumption for the careful consumer (just make sure your seeds aren’t from Monsanto). Indeed, Whole Foods makes this a very public part of their credo with all of the store signage about eating locally. It’s astonishing, the cynicism, and how easy it is for the consumer to be deceived if they are not extremely aware and well informed.
I will still likely shop to some extent at Whole Foods. But I will eliminate many products from my list of purchases. The marketplace of public opinion does speak volumes. If others voice their opinions and follow up with their actions, the market over time will reflect consumer demand. We can and do make a difference.
February 14th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
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February 15th, 2010 at 6:33 am
This absolutely sucks. I will not buy anything from Wholefoods again. I hate China for goods and avoid them wherever I can. Then we find out that this is your food supplier? NO THANKS!!!! GOOD BYE FOREVER!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Time-Out! I just read this article and so I thought to myself “self go to your pantry and check your canned goods that are organic” Well I did just that and I have praise forWhole Foods for telling its consumers where each product is from. Let me give you some examples of other organic foods that do not even tell you where the product is from. Westbrae Organic Black Beans (all of their beans actually) It is certified Organic but where
did my beans come from?
Muir Glen Oraganic tomatoes agsin USDA Organic but where did those little tomatoes come from? And my most favorite Del Monte Organics – they are packed in the USA but where are the tomatoes from. It is quite possible that each and everyone of the above mentioned could be grown in the US but most likely not. I will be more carefull after this although I give WF’s the credit for being upfront and honest. As far as the rest I will purchase the honest ones first and theat is WHOLE FOODS!
DId I mention we live in Virginia Beach and we have to drive to Richmond just to get to WF so loyalty it still is.
February 23rd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
I am beyond angry that Whole Foods would carry ANYTHING from China. I will no longer be shopping at Whole Foods Mill Valley and everyone else I have talked to will also not be shopping there anymore. I shopped at WF weekly and NEVER read where food came from as I trusted WF to take care of me. NEVER will I shop at your store again. This makes me so sick and I am furious. Greed is ugly, and you have lost many customers and their faith over this one. Food from China is beyond crazy. I am shaking I am so mad.
Amy
March 1st, 2010 at 12:03 pm
I have no interest in buying any food product from China. Why can’t Whole Foods buy its produce in the US? Even produce out of season can be bought from our neighbors in Mexico. They don’t have to ship all the way from China! It is costly and hurts the environment, using up fossil fuels and putting excess gasses into the air.
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Hello,
I love whole foods. Why must you buy products from China?
This makes me very unhappy. I am a cancer survivor and I do not trust China. I was buying my dog (Abbey Gail) the best of the best dog food. Dick VanPattens made in USA and it had that melmonie poision in it and she almost died. I do not trust China and do not want to buy anything from China and so do most of my friends. How do I know that a product you are selling has had anything to do with China? I go out of my way to come to Whole Foods. Foolish me thinking that you would keep your product in the USA.
Sincerely,
Peggy Hankins
March 4th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
BUY LOCAL!!!!! The amount of fossil fuels you are using to transport food that is already grown in this country is outrageous and totally diminishes the value of organic food. It is so hypocritical to be promoting organics and the practices that are necessary to produce organic foods while you are not only getting food from so far away but supporting another country’s economy over our own.
March 5th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Walmart- Whole Foods, Walmart- Whole Foods- same- BIG profits are the bottom line- mass buying is the bottom line. We used to travel to our nearest Whole Foods to stock up – never again. Would much rather buy inorganic grown in USA I think, than buy from China or Chile. It’s hard enough to monitor organic day to day practices in USA, but in China- impossible and as evidenced by some of their other products- they don’t care what gets exported!!!!
March 6th, 2010 at 7:22 am
First of all, the statement that traditional Chinese peasant farmers were excellent organic gardeners is rather meaningless when you consider that any primitive culture produces organic products, as long as chemicals are not available to them. Fertilizers came into use in the late 1800’s, but the harmful chemical fertilizers in use today didn’t bloom until about 50 years ago.
The other problem with certifying any kind of ethical standard in China, is that the “Cultural Revolution” seems to have wiped out all the traditional values and all the pride once so prominent there. A friend of mine was in charge of the production there of a well-known American electronic hardware product, and left his job because it was impossible to prevent the workers from putting faulty parts back on the assembly line behind his back when he himself had plucked them as rejects.
I won’t buy any food made or grown in China. When processed food boxes specify only “distributed by,” I know that is often a pretext for food having been grown or processed in China. Last year, I wrote to Lean Cuisine, “distributed by” somewhere in the USA, and asked them directly. They answered, telling me that “China was one of their most important trading partners, etc. etc.,” and then let me know that yes, Lean Cuisine dinners originate there. I HATED having to give up Lean Cuisine.
Beryl Gorbman
March 7th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
WF products are expensive and I thought it was because of the quality and mostly because they are from the US or Western Europe. Please stop selling food from China and other countries where the gov are unreliable just to make a bigger margin! Help the US economy to get back on its feet.
The production of everything is in China and other countries around it, stop buying those otherwise the average american will suffer of loosing more jobs and there will be less customer on the long run…
MAKE A BIG LABEL when the food is from CHINA or other countries and you will see what the customers really want to buy – Please do not call a product “California Blend vegetable” if it come from China! be ethically correct and call it “Chinese Blend vegetable” or even better “Made in China Blend Vegetable!”.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
I enjoyed your article, it was very informative; however I remember years ago when Wal-mart put out their big campaigns about buying American when in actually they were forcing their vendors to set up shop in China…. I am hopeful that we are not seeing the Walmartizing of Whole Foods….I love WF’s, and do not mind paying a little extra for the quality food you put on your shelves, that said if you continue to use suppliers from China I WILL NOT SHOP AT YOUR STORES….
March 12th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
I’m an organic fruit grower from Washington State (Whole Foods actually carries some of our varieties). I understand the need to source products from other countries, as the US can’t grow produce year-round and WF wants to provide their consumers produce year-round. But China?! As a grower, I read a lot of trade journals and I don’t trust ANY food from China. The pollution from a billion people is staggering – over half of them don’t have plumbing. Where do you think all that waste goes? There are plenty of developed southern hemisphere countries to buy from. As a consumer, I’m more than willing to pay more for safe produce. I will never knowingly buy any food from China.
March 12th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Relax nervous people.
I trust Whole Foods Market because they are a good company and set the standards for safety and high quality
Just imagine all of the scary stuff people eat who shop at regular supermarkets or other small market. How do they measure and control quality from their suppliers? The small markets probably don’t have any ability to do that – that’s scary!
Keep up the good work Whole Foods Market in leading the way in setting the standards to keep corporate America honest in keeping Americans safe with what we eat.
Jon in New Jersey
March 14th, 2010 at 3:58 am
I also have to say there is ZERO chance I would buy any food from China. Maybe tea, but that’s about it.
March 14th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Why is is the people like Susan who says “Timeout” or Jon who tells us to “relax” feel compelled to tell us these things? Both of you can mind your own values. We have a right to be upset with WF base on “OUR” values, not yours. So please spare us. Feel free to ingest whatever you want from CHINA where they poison their own people not just what they export. Hey, they’ve got too many people there anyway right? They don’t care. Period.
I for one, stopped shopping at Whole Foods when I first read of this. I pay more for American made and American grown products wherever I can find them. It takes some effort but against my set of values, it’s worth it.
March 15th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Thank you for addressing a very biased report clearly lacking in much factual information.
There are “good” and “bad” players in most industries and in every country. China has gotten a black eye for some of the bad practices in the food industry, and deservingly so. China is a big place, and it is not fair to paint the entire industry with one brush when there are many good people doing the right thing there. Just as it would be unfair to blame all the spinach producers, or all of the peanut butter producers, or all of the ground beef producers, for some of the food safety issues that occurred ion the United States.
The organic industry is improving the lives of the farmers and the local community in the area where we grow. Whether a farmer is from China, Africa or the United States, growing organically is reducing the amount of chemicals in our environment and in our food, and in turn helping the family farm, which is a good thing.
It should not be about “imports versus local” but it is about healthy (as in fruits and vegetables) versus unhealthy (as in junk food) food choices.
By importing organic products and fresh produce from China, the industry is providing a healthy product to the consumer at an affordable cost. In our society where most of the calories we consume are from junk food. I have to agree First Lady Obama that as American’s we need to eat healthier diets.
Jim
P.S. Do Oriental Blend vegetables have to come from the Orient?
March 18th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Regarding trade, Washington State Fruit Grower…do you know China is the largest Export Market for Washington State Apples? China imports much more food from the United States than we import from China.
We are shipping the products that we are most efficient at producing to China. In turn they are shipping products to us that they are more efficient at producing. The United States cannot meet the demand of organic frozen vegetables, garlic and ginger without imports.
Small farms are not very efficient at producing commodities like grains that a more efficiently produces by large scale, mechanized operations. However, they are very efficient at growing labor intensive crops, like fruits and vegetables. Organic agriculture is also very labor intensive, so the Chinese are very good organic farmers.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Regarding carbon footprint, even though the “food miles” represented by ocean shipping is an insignificant amount as compared to other inputs, even in taking ocean freight into account, industrialized production as done in most western style operations, dwarfs the the carbon foot print of ag in China.
For instance, the villagers live near their fields and either walk or ride bicycles to their farms. Everything is done by hand with zero mechanization.
On industrial farms in the United States, everything from planting, to cultivating to harvesting is done with tractors and combines. If you have ever driven by a field in California or Florida that is being harvested, so will see a row of 20 to 50 cars owned by the workers harvesting the field. In China, you may see one or two cars and a shed full of bicycles at a production facility. It is just a different scale and way of doing things there.
March 18th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Hey Jim, feel free to eat all the Chinese food that you want. Just don’t ask me to. I support American farmers and products. You are what you eat. Good luck with your strategy.
Robert
March 20th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Agreed Robert. People vote with dollars, and should spend them accordingly. My only “strategy” is trying to bring some balance to the discussion. I am in the industry, and I am a big supporter of local farmers, and I sell much more produce from American growers than any single import. And I do support the good Chinese farmers and producers that I work with as well. As a supporter of good agriculture, if I am what I eat, I suppose I have a little bit of some good things from all over the world, and proud of it.
March 20th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
We love Whole Foods and were saddened to see the video about China. The issue for us is not whether or not China is organic, but whether or not Whole Foods is buying locally and supporting local farmers and economies instead of cheaping out with questionable chinese produce.
The China issue seems rather more an issue of how high WF profits will be. Maybe give a little on the profitablility and more to the communities that grow good, organic produce locally.
We wish Whole Foods well and acknowledge the challenge of providing affordable organic produce while supporting local economies. CS
March 29th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Here is a comment from your former customer. I used to be buying your products until today. You can keep all of your “Made outside of US” products to yourself. I don’t trust you.
March 29th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
my confidence in the USDA was not very high recently, given funding and man power issues.But organics from China? not a chance that I will buy them in the foreseeable future,given the “transparency ” practiced there.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:26 am
I wonder, if Whole Foods is so confident about their ‘organic’ imports from China, why do they hide where the food comes from in small print on the back of the package? This is just an outright scam. It is shocking to me that executives at WF are willing to play both ends against the middle. They buy cheap, unregulated produce from China and charge high-end, gourmet, organic prices at home. Only one entity comes out on top in that equation and it is not the US consumer or farmer. So much for the lofty mission; personally, I can’t wait for my CSA allotment.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am
I travel to China’s agricultural area 3 times a year. So, unless you see it with your own eyes, it is not fair to say they are any less transparent or unregulated than any organic or “locally” grown produce here in the U.S. If anything, the industry is more regulated and companies like Whole Foods require stricter standards from China.
As for the font size on the packaging, most of the packaging I see is pretty consistent with the Country of Origin and the Ingredients etc. Of course USA producers should proudly and boldly display that their product is from the USA because it is a selling point.
Supporting local farmers is all good. So is supporting organic agriculture from China or any other place. We are trying to raise up the small farmer, reduce chemicals in the environment, and make the planet a better place. Spending your food dollars on CSAs is commendable. But why shouldn’t a lower income person be afforded the same benefits of eating organic foods if products produced in China offer an affordable price point? It a healthy food issue and an environmental issue, not an “Us” versus “Them” issue.
April 1st, 2010 at 4:37 pm
I think it is time we take a look at the real cost of cheap food. Americans are becoming more and more accustomed to eating alot more food than other generations at a relatively inexpensive price. Retailers all over are chasing the demands of the American consumer. They go to other countries to bring in fruits and vegetables at a cheaper price that can be grown domestically. We all pay a price for that. Yes, we take a chance when we buy baby formula or dog food that we can innocently poison our family. It is time we wake up to the price of cheap food. How about we put our AMERICAN farmers back to work, and we pay the real price. While we are at it, perhaps we should be looking at quality and not quantity of what we put in our mouths. As Bob Dylan said, The Times Are Changing! Retailers fill what they think WE want to buy, take RESPONSIBILITY.
April 5th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Elizabeth, thank you for bringing up the problem of too much cheap food available in this country – I will get to that below. With regard to the pet food and baby formula issues – there is no excuse for what happened, and that behavior is deplorable, just as it is when U.S. Manufacturers of Peanut Butter, Canned Tomatoes or Ground Beef knowingly sell product that is no good. Unfortunately, there are bad players that do these things. It is not right to condemn an entire industry (or country) because of them.
The abundance of cheap food in this country is a very valid point, and the World Health Organization (WHO)has published quite a lot on this subject. As Michael Pollen points out in “Food Inc.”, ‘How is it that you can buy a 99-cent cheeseburger but not even a head of broccoli?’
The food that low income people can afford is often cheap, industrialized, mass produced, and inexpensive according to the WHO. Because these calories are subsidized, we end up with a supermarket in which the least healthy calories are the cheapest. And the most healthy calories are the most expensive. That, in the simplest terms, is the root of the obesity epidemic for the poor. The biggest prediction of obesity is income.
What is one of the WHO’s recommendations for countering this issue? Increase the consumption of fruit and vegetables, as well as legumes, whole grains and nuts. So increasing the opportunity for the consumption of more fruits and vegetables is a good thing. I am sure Bob Dylan eats a diet rich in fruits and vegetables and would agree with that.
Jim
April 5th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
My family and I have chosen to no longer shop at whole foods until the Chinese produce is out of the aisles. period.
April 8th, 2010 at 10:30 am
I am a loyal team member at Whole Foods, but I was appalled to discover that many of the frozen vegetables under the 365 Organic label are from China. While the carbon footprint and exploitation of workers is of concern, that is something that is difficult to avoid with most products (Target). With food though, that is a completely different story. Organic food should be safe and healthy! If this organic produce is being watered with contaminated water (water not safe for people to drink) and breathing polluted air, this is contradictory to the entire reason for choosing organics! Not to mention all of the safety concerns China has had with toys, pet food, etc. How can we trust them with organic foods? Whole Foods, SWITCH TO US SUPPLIERS!!!
April 8th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Brad,
You are right, Organic food should be safe and healthy! The fact is, there are very good farmers and producers of safe, healthy, and yes, organic vegetables and fruits in China.
As mentioned in several posts above, the standards in China meet or exceed anything produced in the U.S. or elsewhere. Look at the scruntiny China is getting, just on this blog. Dont you think if there were some recent issues with the organic produce having pesticides etc. this would already have been big news?
Regarding water: Water on our organic farms is taken from deep wells. The water is clean and suitable to drink.
Regarding carbon footprint: even though the “food miles” represented by ocean shipping is an insignificant amount as compared to other inputs, even in taking ocean freight into account, industrialized production as done in most western style operations, dwarfs the the carbon foot print of ag in China.
For instance, the villagers live near their fields and either walk or ride bicycles to their farms. Everything is done by hand with zero mechanization.
On industrial farms in the United States, everything from planting, to cultivating to harvesting is done with tractors and combines. If you have ever driven by a field in California or Florida that is being harvested, so will see a row of 20 to 50 cars owned by the workers harvesting the field. In China, you may see one or two cars and a shed full of bicycles at a production facility. It is just a different scale and way of doing things there.
The single greatest way to reduce the carbon footprint from food is to reduce your consumption of red meat. If we all ate 1 less meal per week of red meat, this would do far more than switching 100% to locally consumed produce – look it up.
Regarding labor: Local farmers from the villages we work with have a direct stake in organic vegetables we sell. This is confirmed by a Fair Trade audit by BRC. Having worked for the U.S. Labor department doing migrant farm labor advocacy in the United States, I have seen good farm employers in the US and terrible ones. Again, you cannot paint one indusuty with one brush because of a few bad players.
Jim
April 11th, 2010 at 9:21 am
You my have legitimate doubts of the capability of your own government to enforce your organic regulations on food coming from China or else where. And you may feel likewise about the motives for Whole Food Market to promote it.
But to think that in the whole country of China there’s no food of quality of organic farms and all food is crap or poor or toxic or contaminated or incapable of reach US standards just because it comes from China is the raciest thing.
April 12th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Jim, China sure is getting a lot of scrutiny. Where do you think that comes from? Are people just making it up? No, it’s based on fact and experience, as I explain below. Other countries aren’t getting the scrutiny that China is getting for a good reason – they do not have the problems China has. I am not trying to say that China’s organic produce has pesticides. It may though, that is hard to say, considering that the Chinese government is auditing the farms, not the USDA or Quality Assurance International, or another agency without a stake in the results. He comes down to “he said she said that he said this is organic.” Where’s the actual report?
Carmen, the capability of the USDA to enforce organic standards is of particular concern in China due to the government having such a strong role in the farming AND the regulation. Also, thinking that food is not up to US organic standards because it comes from China is not racist – it’s based on fact and experience.
With over a billion people, China has serious pollution problems, which results in polluted air and water. The lower cost of living and higher level of government involvement in business also mean that money-saving techniques (also known as contaminants) are popular (such as using human fecal matter as fertilizer). Even if the water used for farming comes from “deep wells,” it is still the same polluted and contaminated water. Regardless, if the local water is contaminated, the soil is contaminated. Safe foods do not grow in contaminated soil.
China has a bad record with safety. Lead in children’s toys, melamine and other chemicals in pet food (resulting in about 8500 pet deaths), and the list goes on. Chinese products simply have more safety concerns.
There is a reason that audit information is not available with Chinese organics. Whole Foods Market uses QAI to confirm organic integrity of products sold under its store label, as per USDA Organic Standards. QAI then hires another undisclosed agency (under the Chinese government) to confirm the organic integrity. The Chinese government has a large stake in the farms, so the audit agencies are likely to look the other way when things are not up to standards. The problem is that the information simply is not public. If I want to see the report showing which agency directly confirmed the organic integrity of, say, 365 Organic Thai Stir Fry Vegetables, I would not be able to. They are not available to the public. So we are trusting QAI to evaluate these audits that we cannot see ourselves, from an agency we do not know about, from a farm that is not disclosed… If there is nothing to hide, then why is this information hidden?
This has nothing to do with “race.” It is not that a Chinese worker cannot produce safe, quality, organic food. It is that no one can positively produce safe, quality, organic food in a country like China.
Chinese products can’t be be considered safe. We have had too many bad experiences with Chinese products before, and the lack of oversight with Chinese organics is of no assurance. So I would like to know this: If Whole Foods Market is so “sure” of these Chinese organics, why not do a survey? Ask WFM customers how they feel about their organic products being from China. Give them a list of pros and cons of Chinese organics. Let them decide. The answer will be obvious: WFM shoppers do not want Chinese organics! WFM shoppers want safe food, that’s why they shop at WFM!
April 12th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Brad, what you are saying is based on “facts” is pure conjecture at best, and is has no basis in knowledge or awareness of what is actually happening in China. Anything sold in the United States as Organic regardless of what country it is grown is under the USDA standards and is certified as organic by an independent audit supervised by the USDA. And this is just the start. I cannot speak for every producer in China, but our facility is certified by GlobalGap and BRC (British Retail Consortium). You can learn more about these standards on the net.
In my many posts, I never once mention race as a factor, but I will say that any issues from China get far more negative press than similar issues in the United States. For instance, have you ever heard of “Fertilizergate”? Just a couple of short years ago, the major organic fertilizer companies that sell 95% of the United States organic growers were found to be cheating and their fertilizer was not organic. Here is a link to a story about that:
http://naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/tabId/119/itemId/3615/California-faces-organic-Fertilizergate.aspx
Under the USDA rules, all of the products grown with this fertilizer could have been ruled not organic and there would have had been a massive recall. The industry and the USDA made an exception and allowed any products grown with the fertilizer to maintain their organic standards. If this had been in China – I think this news would be all over this blog.
As for pollutants, it is a shame that China is achieving Western Standards in this category! They emit about the same level of pollutants as the US with about 4 times the population. As an industry, that is what we are working to reduce as a common goal.
Again, it is not an “Us versus Them”. If we increase the amount of organic produce grown and consumed in the world, we are creating a healthier planet and population.
Jim
April 12th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Other people can eat what they want and if they wish they can purchase organics from China. I don’t! for many reasons. The point is as a consumer I have the right to know what I am buying and how and where I spend my money. You are loosing loyal clients and you are taking advantage of the trust we gave you.
April 21st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Vanessa, isn’t that what I have consistently written in the blog – that consumers should vote with their dollars? I do not understand the latter comment about having the right to know where your product is from. All of the products from China are labeled with their country-of-origin. In our case, the font is the same size as the other legal requirements on the package.
Maybe the people taking advantage are not the ones selling organic products from China, but those that would lead you to believe there is something wrong with that.
Jim
May 11th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE VERY LITTLE MONEY LEFT OVER AFTER WE PAY OUR BILLS FOR FOOD. WE HAVE BEEN EATING ORGANIC FOR 5+ YEARS. THE ONLY TIME WE STRAY IS IF WE GO OUT TO A RESTRAUNT, WHICH IS RARE. OUR DAUGHTER IS 2&1/2, SHE DID NOT EAT ANYTHING WITHOUT THE USDA ORGANIC STAMP UNTILL HER SECOND BIRTHDAY. WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HAVE WHOLE FOODS WITHIN REACH. I HAVE TO DRIVE 45 MIN TO GET THEIR AND 45 MIN BACK HOME BUT THE COST OF THEIR ORGANICS ARE WORTH IT. I WAS SO SUPRISED TO HERE ABOUT FOOD FROM CHINA I HAVE A SMALL BUDGET AND BUY WHAT IS CHEEPEST OR ON SALE AND A LOT OF TIME 365 HAPPENS TO BE THE BRAND WE BRING HOME. NOW I FEEL UNSURE ABOUT PURCHACING THESE ITEMS. I JUST NOW READ THIS REPORT. I AM DISAPOINTED BECAUSE WFM IS KNOWEN FOR LOCAL GROWEN AND ORGANICS I CHECK LABLES FOR THE USDA ORGANIC STAMP AND FAT GRAMS BUT I NEVER THOUGHT TO LOOK FOR MADE IN USA ON SOME OF THEIR FOOD, JUST FRESH PRODUCE. I BELIVE IN ORGANICS I EAT LESS AND MAKE CHEEP DINERS INSTEAD OF THE 5*** ONES I WOULD RATHER HAVE IN ORDER TO BUY ORGANICS. I SHOP AT WFM BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT I COULD PUT THINGS IN MY CART HOME AND BODY WITH LESS WORRIE BECAUSE YOU COULD TRUST THEM. I EXPECT ALDI TO HAVE “BAD” FOOD OR ITEMS FROM CHINA AND FULL OF PESTIDES BECAUSE THEY CLAIM LOW LOW PRICES NOT GRADE A FOOD. ALSO YOU USUALLY GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR AT A SAVE A LOT OR DISCOUNT FOOD MARKET. I REALY ENJOY WHOLE FOODS THEY ARE SO HELPFUL, ORGANIZED, AND CLEAN. THEY SEEM TO MAKE GOING TO THE MARKET LESS OF A CHORE AND MORE OF AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE. I WILL KEEP SHOPPING AT WFM. I HOPE THE 365 BRAND WILL COME AROUND TO MORE BEING GROWEN AND PRODUCED IN USA. TILL THEN I WILL HAVE TO SPEND MORE TIME READING THE LABLES AND BUY LESS FOOD FROM OTHER BRANDS FOR THE HIGHER COST.
ORGANIC OHIO MOM
May 22nd, 2010 at 2:47 am
I have been a loyal Whole Foods shopper for years, but Whole Foods justification for purchasing organic vegetables for the private label frozen vegetables is nothing more then corporate greed to increase profit margins and the value of their stock at the expense of their customers. Whole Foods, a company that has been ranked for years in the top 100 best companies to work for in the USA, supports a country, China that has and continues to have severe human rights violations fro their citizens.
There are plenty of other 3rd world countries that Whole Foods could invest and source organic produce that do not have governments that suppress their people and their freedoms. The whole conversation about whether organic produce from China really meets USDA organic standards is valid, but why would a company that is the leader in the organic food movement and that values it’s employees so much not take a stand that they will not purchase produce from China until they have proven they will change the freedoms for their citizens. Would Whole Foods except this kind of treatment for their own employees?
At the end of the day when the rubber meets the road, Whole Foods is just like a typical public company that tells a good story be is driven by their shareholders for high returns and profitability, the same as WalMart and others like them. The question is does Whole Foods want to take a stand or compromise their values.
May 23rd, 2010 at 3:50 pm
I will NEVER purchase foods, supplements or herbs grown in China. Besides not being worth the risk, what about American farmers? Why don’t we all just become a bunch of serfs and peasants? Locally grown food is better for our economy and better for our health. In addition, food that is shipped halfway around the world uses a lot of energy. How wasteful is that!!!! We had a thriving organic foods industry in this country prior to the USDA certification program. Like everything else that our government gets involved in, all it has done is make it very expensive to become certified as organic here, so now we are going to import our “organic” food from China.
June 3rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
I will not purchase anything from China. I agree that home grown is better, environmentally, politically and in general more economical. “Organic” in China could mean “night soil”. I will not take a chance, I don’t care how many “inspectors” have certified that the product is safe.
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
I really cannot understand some of the comments on this blog about China from people who have obviously not seen China’s organic industry first-hand. The Organic Trade Association (http://www.ota.com/index.html) is the foremost proponent of developing the organic food industry in the world. Here are some comments from their recent visit to the organic growing area in China:
What kind of “take-away” impression do you have following the tour with regard to organics from China?
The most basic “take away” is that we truly are a global society and that increasing organic agriculture and products worldwide is good for everyone. The Chinese farmers we met were concerned about preventing pesticide drift from nearby conventional fields and effectively controlling weeds; and the Chinese consumers we talked to were looking for organic products for an enhanced food safety guarantee and to provide their families with healthy products. Overall, our conversations contained similar concerns and aspirations to what I’ve heard in the United States.
What I encountered in China was a dynamic partnership between a group of committed growers, processors and distributors. Together, Jim and his team, have developed a sophisticated system, managed according to the strictest organic standards, that consumers can unequivocally trust.
A full report about OTA’s China tour will be in their August newsletter. Jim
June 8th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
The steps outlined pertain to 365 Everyday Value items. I am concerned about the bulk items, namely organic walnuts, and the chocolate-covered ginger which reportedly were sourced from China in 2008. What is the country of origin now for these products? And when whill Whole Foods label country of origin on its bulk items? Thank you.
June 15th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
@Rosemary Our bulk items are purchased on the commodity market, which means that sources vary throughout the year. Also, each of our geographic regions handles their own bulk purchasing to ensure they are meeting their customers’ needs. So, your best bet is to ask your local store’s bulk team members for the sourcing on the products you are interested in. Not the most elegant solution but the best way to make sure you are getting an accurate answer. FYI, all of our 365 snack products (nuts, seeds, etc.) are labeled with their Country of Origin even though it’s not mandated by the government. Just keep in mind that if there is not a Country of Origin listed, it’s grown and packed in the USA. It’s only when it’s not from the USA that we list its source.
June 16th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
I am very pleased to read the response from Whole Foods on the organic products from China. I believe it is right to question the ingredients and origin of what we eat. In this time of communication via the Internet, people can pass a large amount of negative, incorrect and critical information all over the world. I will continue to shop at Whole Foods. The quality and choice of products is incredible.
June 22nd, 2010 at 2:55 pm
True, there are many people in China who want to live healthy lives, and also treat their customers with respect and integrity. There are many who do not, however, and simply checking does not work. Look what happened in the melamine in the milk case, even though they were partnering with a New Zealand company known for its healthy products. If someone wants to cheat, they can do it without too much risk. I have lived in China for twenty years, actually longer considering Hong Kong and Taiwan, nearly forty years, and have seen many, many cases where greed generated poor adhesion to standards. It is a case of trust, and Whole Foods corporate gobbledygook does not engender trust; just look at BP’s press releases and blogs. The writers appear to come from the same school. Get back to reality and look at the results. Don’t just look to the farms; look to the waters into which chemicals are dumped with impunity. Look at the hospitals where there is a flood of people entering with cancer. China has only one sixth of the world’s population, yet over one fourth of the world’s cancer according to a report in one of China’s own newspapers. Visit the hospitals, check with friends; most have horrific stories of cancer. True, there are places in China less polluted; however, those places are disappearing rapidly with industrialization and with tourism. Places that I went twenty years ago even without hotels are now crowded with all of the trappings of modernity. Whole Foods has to get back to basics; engender trust by being in integrity with labeling and sourcing, not just barely meeting standards. After all, with John Mackey’s previous use of his wife’s reversed name to bash Wild Oats in blogs does not engender the level of trust that one would wish when dealing with one’s health.
August 3rd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I am in Chicago and recently I went on a community garden tour where local communities grow their own food in vacant land/parks on membership basis (or so called CSA farm). Having read all the comments it helps me to understand why trust is the foundation for organic food business and how that may be elevated by scrutiny and transparency, which is somewhat lack of in China right now.
I believe that situation has already been rapidly changing as the Chinese government and all industries in China took the opportunity of recession for business transformation and upgrading as well as more effective policy enforcement. It surely has a long way to go but positive changes have been made.
I agree with Jim as he spoke with evidence and direct experience from China. It is always a good thing to have a different voice and opinion and to appreciate those that don’t always agree with the consensus. I hope to see organic farm practice myself in China and find out the real truth! If anyone is interested in organic farming and business in China, please contact me at organicfood.china@gmail.com!
Cheers, Emma
September 6th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Thanks for labeling. Buy local means I will never buy from China knowingly. We have not been able to trust them with our toys and building materials, do you really think we can trust them with our food?
September 18th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
As I have mentioned, there is no excuse for greed that leads to environmental or food safety problems. There are good companies in China, so do not through an entire culture under the bus due to a few bad apples. Remember, it was not that long ago U.S. manufacturers brought us asbestos, so we are not immune to product safety issues right here at home.
Yes, I do trust the farmers and manufacturers of food products in China. They are very focused on learning from the issues that occurred in the past and preventing their recurrence. Developing standards and making an extra effort to ensure product quality and safety is both the responsibility of the exporting and importing country. I am seeing this cooperation in the business that I do in China, and I do see the Chinese government taking this issue very seriously.
I continue to buy local and support my local farmers as much as possible. I also believe in supporting the hardworking family farmers in China, or elsewhere in the world. We need to consume more healthy foods, and if imports can help us achieve that aim, then they should supplement our local sources.
Jim
October 4th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
I’m happy to read that you have stopped the sourcing of foods from China, excepting Edamame. May I suggest that this also be stopped? If enough organic farmers in the US realize the size of the market for organic edamame, they may well match or nearly match the Chinese option. Even having read all of your explanations, I still don’t trust Chinese produce to be really organic. The country’s waters and land are just too polluted right now. Perhaps in the future.
January 18th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
I don’t care how Whole Foods Corporate spins this, they should not offer food from China at all, especially organic. China cheats on EVERYTHING and they are laughing at your buyers when they leave to think how dumb you’d be to think their food is actually organic or not full of dangerous pesticides. They will put on a show for you when you visit, but after, they will cut every corner and use whatever chemical they can to save money/make money.
Whole Foods knows better, they just are Greedy in this case. Put the label MADE IN CHINA on the front in letters big enough to actually notice and you know NO ONE will buy this garbage.
Quit trying to sneak in things like this…just do the right thing always and don’t be so greedy…people will understand the truth and pay more if needed, but don’t try to sneak China food by us with tiny country names on the back of products. With the social media power today, you could find your stores in a huge boycott almost overnight if this goes viral. You guys would make money not doing this sneaking stuff at all, so why would you even risk it?
I also saw where the state of california sued you for putting nasty chemicals in so called “Organic” and “Natural” hair and skin care products, WTF? Why would you undermine the trust of your customers with this sneaky and greedy actions?
I suggest the top people have a pow wow and rewrite you value and mission statement to not pull any more of these sneaky tricks again…go clean from here on in. Like Domino’s Pizza did…what a success that was. I’m sure your still sneaking more things like the China veggies and the dangerous shampoos…so fess up, stop it, and reap the rewards.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Where are your chanterelle mushrooms from? In the store I was at in Vancouver, the label DID NOT say!
May 25th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Wow, am I late to the party on this one. I just had the video e-mailed to me and didn’t realize this was from a couple of years ago. I have completely lost faith in the Whole Foods brand. Please don’t insult our intelligence with your exhaustive explanation of why we can trust “organic” produce from China. I’ve had discussions with some of your seafood personnel about all of the fish that you source from Asia (responsibly farmed I’m assured). I’m sure today’s news story about the filthy seafood coming in form overseas can be applied to the products your buyers procure as well if it can help with that stock price. I’m going to skip the 365 brand completely now and will only shop at WF when necessary. It is a shame that such a high caliber company has become another Wal-Mart. I’ll make sure everyone that I know that shops at WF sees the video on this as well. Kudos for doing the right thing after the PR disaster but it truly leaves your general corporate integrity in question overall. I’ve been a customer since the late 90’s and so sad to see that you’ve sold out.
October 5th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
@Marcia Thank you for reaching out and giving us an opportunity to continue the discussion. We only discriminate when it comes to quality and taste, not country of origin. Whole Foods Market continues to buy from China because we believe in supporting farmers that provide high quality products.
Our strategy is not to run away from our Chinese suppliers, but to take a stand and get closer to our suppliers. We will continue to improve on the audit and testing procedures that are already in place. Organic farming has a long history in China. Our strategy is to build long term partnerships with our Chinese suppliers. We are confident in the quality and integrity of our products from all countries, including China.
As the world population grows, we are going to be forced to look at our supply chains and develop emerging organic suppliers all over the world.
The steps we are taking now will assure the long term quality of our supply as we look beyond the United States for organic food solutions.
If you have further questions about our products and buying protocols feel free to connect with our private label team at privatelabel.customerservice@wholefoods.com.
October 6th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I am Asian and my friends and family are multi-generational American Asians. None of us will buy any food from China. We don’t trust any labeling from China. We feel the Chinese has brought shame to the Asian community by making short term profit from unsafe, poisonous, and fake products. Did you know that the Chinese even make fake EGGS? The Asians are embarrassed by the obvious greed and the lost of trust by the world consumers will be hard to win back.
October 27th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
I recently watched the video on Eros. Watching it reminded me just how important it is for people to be aware of the journey a product takes before it hits the shelves. After seeing the attention that Eros pays to the environment I am certainly more inclined to give there product a shot. When a customer came through with a case of the product I was so eager to tell her about their methods of production. She loved the product and was thrilled to hear how thorough they were in their mission of helping the environment.
October 31st, 2011 at 4:32 pm
How sustainable is getting any food from China? Regardless of organic standards, that’s a lot of fuel and a huge waste of natural resources!
November 1st, 2011 at 11:19 am
I just got the link below, but don’t know if it’s for real, or from quite a long time ago. I asked about it in my local store yesterday and no one knew about it or had any interest in speaking to me about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=JQ31Ljd9T_Y
thanks for your help w/understanding this.
November 16th, 2011 at 9:44 am
@Bonnie This was a media push from some time ago. Since this is an issue that many were concerned with, for the best way to get acquainted with the situation and the current information, I recommend you read the blog post and all the response comments from Team Members on the blog. There is a lot of great information shared there. Thanks for reaching out and your willingness to work with us to stop the spread of misinformation.
November 17th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Wow, I’m another one that is late to this party as I just received the video link via an email. What saddens me most is that two of the WF’s core values I had come to understand was local farm support and sustainability. How can we support our local farms — whether in our county or country — when WF is sourcing food from not just another country, but one from the opposite side of the globe? Specialty products for shoppers who desire ingredients for cultural recipes makes complete sense…but how can WF justify other more common products that are grown locally, and even on the same continent? The cost of fuel used to transport produce from China is especially shameful when we all know high-quality produce is available at a fraction the fuel cost. While I truly appreciate the business perspective (I am a capitalist), I do not condone business profits over values, especially when that is NOT the message advertised throughout the store. I’m one of the lucky ones, living in a state where other organic options are more available than in other locals. I already pay a premium for (what I thought was) organically grown food for my family. I guess more of my large monthly food budget will be going to farmers markets and New Seasons.
Honestly, even though this news is 18+ months old, my opinion of and trust in WF is shaken. I feel like someone bumped the mask and I peeked Wal-Mart behind the Whole Foods logo.
November 30th, 2011 at 11:44 am
I don’t care what you say, food products from China do not belong in Whole Foods. I will never buy them. I am very disappointed and believe that by selling these products you are damaging your brand.
December 14th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
@Kay Please see the most up to date information regarding our sourcing. The only organic item we now source from China are the 365 Edamame. The newest information can be found in the team member responses from earlier posts. Thank you.
December 20th, 2011 at 9:53 am
I would not buy the food if I new it was from China. This news is way too late for me.
December 26th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
your site is very interesting, i have read a few of the articles on your website now….. and i add this site to my bookmarks….
December 28th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
I have read your response to the WJLA 2008 report and was happy to see that you no longer use “organic” foods from China in your frozen offerings. Being very familiar with certification and accreditation and having traveled to China I can offer the following opinion. The fact that some (most often in-country) “inspector” or Quality Assurance person(s) have passed a process as being (in your case) “organic” is farcical at best. In addition to the recent problems with food safety in China I have been witness to local inspectors “passing” processes and later finding that they did not even look at them. My hat is off to you for responding to your customers in the US.. and I will continue to buy at Whole Foods and (of course) look at the country of origin for ALL my food.
January 20th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
I resonate with many of the posts that express concern about consuming anything from China for 2 reasons: 1) I sat on a bus with a college student from China who said his own home town has been so polluted the people can barely drink the water or plant a garden. The air, water, soil concerns in China trump any certification about farming practices. We are unable to get edamame from the US because?? 2) We shoot ourselves in the foot by insisting on natural & organic farming practices, while supporting the use of petroleum to transport products across continents that we can access from a closer location. This is insanity.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:22 pm
i am sorry. when i saw the abc piece i was shocked!!!! outraged!!! even if it says organic and it is from china it is not to be trusted. you guys really blew it. this was not a smart business decision and you have violated a trust. i will think twice before stepping into a whole foods again.
frank
February 7th, 2012 at 12:48 pm